ALOMES, Robert Carter 'Kerry'

ALOMES, Robert Carter 'Kerry'

Male 1770 - 1853  (83 years)

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  • Name ALOMES, Robert Carter 'Kerry'  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
    Born 1770  Dublin, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 5, 6, 7
    Gender Male 
    Died 31 Aug 1853  Clarence Plains, Van Diemen's Land, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 5, 6
    Buried 5 Sep 1853  Clarence Plains, Van Diemen's Land, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Person ID I25658  My Genealogy
    Last Modified 16 Sep 2023 

    Father CARTER, Colonel (British Army),   b. Abt 1745, Dublin, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother ALLOMES, Miss,   b. 1778, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Relationship natural 
    Family ID F4089  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family BELLETT, Elizabeth Harper,   b. 18 Jan 1792, Norfolk Island, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 24 Dec 1866, South Arm, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 74 years) 
    Married 21 Aug 1809  Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. ALOMES, Emmaline Sophia Carter,   b. 29 Jul 1810, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 Jul 1898, Bellerive, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 87 years)  [natural]
     2. ALOMES, Elizabeth Henrietta Carter,   b. 3 Mar 1812, Sorell, Van Diemen's Land, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Mar 1902, Sorell, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 90 years)  [natural]
     3. ALOMES, Jacob Ernest Carter,   b. 6 Apr 1816, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 12 Mar 1893, Sorell, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 76 years)  [natural]
     4. ALOMES, Mary Carter,   b. 2 Feb 1818, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1 Oct 1915, South Arm, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 97 years)  [natural]
     5. ALOMES, Robert Charles,   b. 23 Jul 1820, Pittwater, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 29 Jan 1860, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 39 years)  [natural]
     6. ALOMES, John James Carter,   b. 22 Aug 1822, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 7 May 1894, Glebe, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 71 years)  [natural]
     7. ALOMES, Edward Henry Carter,   b. 13 Mar 1824, Forcett, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 12 Feb 1871, Ralphs Bay, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 46 years)  [natural]
     8. ALOMES, George Thomas,   b. 18 Feb 1827, Sorell, Van Diemen's Land, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 12 Nov 1922, South Arm, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 95 years)  [natural]
     9. ALOMES, Amelia Matilda,   b. 2 Aug 1829, Sorell, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 16 Sep 1917, New Town, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 88 years)  [natural]
     10. ALOMES, Elizabeth Ann,   b. 26 Dec 1835, Sorell, Van Diemen's Land, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1 Oct 1915, South Arm, Tasmania, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 79 years)  [natural]
    Last Modified 16 Sep 2023 
    Family ID F6630  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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  • Notes 
    • Robert Alomes arrived in Hobart in 1804 on the Ocean with Colonel David Collins. He was the first man as sergeant of marines to plant the Union Jack at the site of Hobart Town. Elizabeth Bellette was the first daughter of Jacob and Ann Bellette.

      Robert Allomes (aka Robert Alomes or Robert Carter)

      Robert Allomes arrived in Van Diemen's Land on the Ocean in 1804. The first reference to him is in The Historical Records of Australia Series III Vol.1, p.107 where he is included in a list of persons victualled 17 October 1803, described as a Sergeant. On page 343 he is described as a private in the Royal Marines in a list of Marines at Hobart Town 18 December 1805. In The General Muster of 1818 for Buckingham he is described as 'came free'. His name appears in the Landholder's Muster of 1819 for Buckingham as the owner of 30 acres in The Pittwater district with a wife and 5 children.

      He was the first man as sergeant of marines under Lieutenant-Colonel David Collins, R.M. (afterwards Lieutenant-Governor) to plant the Union Jack at Hobart Town at the spot where Risby Bros’ mill was formerly located. A full list of those who arrived with Lt. Gov. Collins was placed on the monument at Macquarie Wharf and unveiled on the 20th February 2004 by the First Settlers Association.

      On 21 August 1809, as Robert Carter, he married Elizabeth Bellett (or Billett) the daughter of Jacob Bellett who was transported on The Scarborough in the First Fleet. Jacob Bellett (senior or junior) and Francis Barnes were witnesses to the marriage which was celebrated by Rev.R. Knopwood.(NS 282/8/1).

      The following baptisms were found of children born to the couple, some under the name of Carter and others under the name of Allomes:¬

      Emmaline (Carter) baptised 29 July 1810 Married John Morrisby 9 Sep 1828
      William (Carter) born 26 June 1814
      Elizabeth (Carter) baptised 3 March 1812
      Jacob (Carter) born 6 April 1816, died 12 March 1893 Married Isabella Quested 25 May 1841
      Mary (Carter) born 2 February 1818, baptised 26 March 1818
      Robert Charles (Allomes) born 23 July 1820, died 29 January 1860 Married Jane Wood 28 May 1844
      John (Carter) born 22 August 1822, died 7 May 1894 Married Rosa Davidson 10 April 1848
      Edward (Carter) born 13 March 1824 Married Elizabeth Jones
      George Thomas (Allomes) born 18 February 1827 Married (1) Janet Mackay 4 Jan 1855
      (2) Agnes Mary Musk 1 Jan 1867
      Amelia Matilda (Allomes) born 2 August 1829, died 16 September 1917 Married John Watson 25 Sep 1849
      Elizabeth Ann (Allomes) born 26 December 1835, died 1 October 1915. Married John M Potter 23 Sep 1861
      (NS 282/8/1; 432/1 (Sorell) (St Davids)
      A census return for Richmond in 1842 shows Richard Allums [sic] at Ralph's Ray, property by the name of Home Fields. On the return are :- 1 married male aged above 60 years, arrived free. 1 married female aged above 45-60 years, born in colony. 3 single males aged 21-45, born in colony. 1 single female, aged 7-14, born in colony. I single female, aged 14-21, born in colony. 1 single female, aged 21-45, born in colony. All were Church of England.

      Amelia Allomes married John Watson of York Grove, Sandford.

      Robert Alomes was buried 5 September 1853, described in the Clarence Plains register as a farmer aged 83 years. (NS 373/12). His widow Elizabeth Alomes of South Arm died 24 December 1866 and was buried 26 December 1866 aged 75 (St Barnabas Anglican Church, South Arm). Robert Alomes, junior, of South Arm was buried 1 February 1860, aged 39. (NS 334/5).

      Janet Alomes of South Arm, wife of George was buried 9 December 1864 aged 29, and Alice Cecilia Alomes, daughter of George was buried 15 December 1864 aged 8. (NB 3M/5).

      Emmaline Alomes married John Morrisby 9 September 1828 (Sorell & Richmond Register NS 432/1). Baptisms of three of their children were :-

      George Thomas born 10 June 1829, baptised 9 August 1829
      John Robert born 23 April 1832, baptised 16 June 1832
      Charles born 17 January 1834, baptised 16 March 1834
      John Thomas Allomes died 27 November 1922 at his residence, Edward Street, Sandy Bay, husband of Mary Ann Alomes in his 73rd year. His obituary described him as a president of The Glebe for 30 years, a member of The Glebe Tour Board and a church warden of Holy Trinity Church. He left a widow and 4 children (Mercury 28 November 1922).

      George Alomes, husband of Agnes Mary died at his residence Rosemount, South Arm, on 12 November 1922, aged 97. His obituary said that he was the son of Robert Alomes of Sorell, who, it is said, was a son of a Colonel Carter who had married a Miss Alomes. Robert Alomes received a good education in Dublin, becoming a medical student, but in consequence of a family quarrel he enlisted under his mother's name and after service at Gibraltar became a sergeant in The Royal Marines and reached Hobart with Governor David Collins in 1804. He married about 1808 a daughter of Jacob Bellette of Sorell and acquired considerable real estate and settled there. Mr G.T. Alomes in 1848 left Sorell and went to South Arm and acquired Rosemount which became his home for 74 years. The Alomes and Morrisby families became connected by marriage.

      A Richard Alomes was employed at Goose Island Lighthouse 1886-89. He was then a married farmer aged 34. He was also employed at the Derwent lighthouse 1889 - 1891 and the Maatsuyker Lighthouse 1891-92. (Index Civil Servants).

      Kay Merry, descendant of Robert Alomes and member of the Hobart Town (1804) First Settlers Association has written a paper on Robert Alomes and the mysteries surrounding his background. You can download by clicking here.

      http://micktopfer.com/familyhistory/146.html

      Robert Carter Alomes and Elizabeth Harper Bellet

      Robert Carter Alomes was born in 1770 in Dublin, Ireland, died on 31 Aug 1853 in Clarence Plains, Van Diemen's Land, Australia at age 83, and was buried on 5 Sep 1853 in Clarence Plains, Van Diemen's Land. Robert married Elizabeth Harper Bellett, daughter of First Fleet convict ↑Jacob Bellett and Ann Harper, on 21 Aug 1809 in Hobart Town, Van Diemen's Land. Elizabeth was born on 18 Jan 1792 in Norfolk Island, died on 24 Dec 1866 in South Arm at age 74, and was buried on 26 Dec 1866 in St Barnabas, South Arm.

      The origins of Robert Alomes are controversial and clouded in mystery. It was originally claimed:

      Robert Alomes, son of Colonel Carter of Dublin, Ireland was born in 1770 in Dublin, Ireland, died on 31 Aug 1853 in Clarence at age 83, and was buried on 5 Sep 1853 in Rokeby. His mother was a Ms. Allomes/Alomes which is thought to come from the french D'Alloems. Robert Alomes was educated at Trinity College, Dublin. He was studying medicine at Trinity College and after a quarrel enlisted in the Royal Marines under his mother’s name. He entered the army as an ensign, but ran away to England and joined the navy. He was a marine at the siege of Gibraltar, 1732, on the ship "James" under Sir Charles Summers. He quarreled with his father and came to the colonies with Governor Collin’s expedition in HMS Calcutta, as a Royal Marine's Sergeant on 9 Oct 1803.See the book From Chains to Freedom written by Thais Mason.

      However more recent research suggests that this may be simply fiction and records to support his parentage ands Trinity education cannot be located.

      On 16 Feb 1804 he arrived at Risdon Cove, near Hobart, Tasmania in the Ocean. He stepped ashore with the British flag and planted it on behalf of Lieutenant-Governor David Collins, where Hobart is now built. The first reference to him is in The Historical Records of Australia Series III Vol.1, p.10 7 where he is included in a list of persons victualled on 17 October 1803, described as a Sergeant.
      He was stationed on Norfolk Island on military duties sometime after coming here in 1804. By the Governor’s orders he was brought her to Van Diemen’s Land and was married on 21 Aug 1809 in St. Davids Church, Hobart Town. They were one of the first couples married in Tasmania and when the event took place they were entertained to a wedding breakfast by Governor Collins at Government House, the latter on that occasion presented him with 50 sheep, including several lambs. He received a grant of land at Pittwater 2 miles from Sorell and was a prosperous colonist. He became a farmer at Pittwater owning 30 acres in 1809. As Robert Carter he married Elizabeth Bellett. Some of their children were baptised as Carter and some as Alomes, also spelt as Allomes.

      A census return for Richmond in 1842 shows Richard Allums (sic) at Ralph's Bay, property by the name of Home Fields. On the return are:

      1 married male aged above 60 years, arrived free.
      1 married female aged above 45-60 years, born in colony.
      3 single males aged 21-45, born in colony.
      1 single female, aged 7-14, born in colony.
      1single female, aged 14-21, born in colony.
      1 single female, aged 21-45, born in colony.

      All were Church of England.

      Three of Robert Alomes' sons were early settlers at South Arm. John and George Alomes were listed on the electoral roll in 1856, leasing land from George Gellibrand. Later both owned farms. Their brother Robert arrived later after farming at Clarence Plains. George's first wife was Janet McKay and he later married Agnes Musk. His descendants are now living at South Arm, Launceston and the mainland. John Alomes and his wife Rosina Davidson owned the property now called 'Ralphdene' which is presently owned by their great grandson, Don Calvert. John Alomes youngest son Henry inherited the farm. The eldest son Frederick who married Elizabeth Blatherwick after farming at South Arm, moved to a farm in Glenorchy. John James, who married Mary Ann Musk, worked as a draper's assistant in Hobart. Robert Charles Alomes was only on South Arm for a few years before his death in 1860 when his family moved to the farm known as 'Green Island' at Clifton. His wife was Jane Wood of Sorell

      Robert and Elizabeth had 12 children:

      Emmaline Sophia
      Eliza
      William Frederick
      Jacob Ernest
      Mary Carter
      Mary Ann
      Robert Charles
      John James
      Edward Henry
      George Thomas
      Amelia Matilda and
      Elizabeth Ann.

      https://www.cocker.id.au/ancestor_alomes.php

  • Sources 
    1. Database online.
      Record for Colonel (British Army) Carter

    2. [S196] New South Wales, Australia, Settler and Convict Lists, 1787-1834, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2007;), Class: HO 10; Piece: 18.
      New South Wales, Australia, Settler and Convict Lists, 1787-1834
      New South Wales, Australia, Settler and Convict Lists, 1787-1834


    3. [S213] New South Wales, Australia, Colonial Secretary's Papers, 1788-1856, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Series: NRS 898; Reel or Fiche Numbers: Reels 6020-6040, 6070; Fiche 3260-3312.
      New South Wales, Australia, Colonial Secretary's Papers, 1788-1856
      New South Wales, Australia, Colonial Secretary's Papers, 1788-1856


    4. [S417] Australia, Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2014;).
      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTXW-VRD

    5. Database online.
      Record for ROBERT Carter Alomes

    6. [S309] Public Member Trees, Ancestry.com, (Name: Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.;;).
      Record for Jacob Ernest ALOMES
      https://search.ancestry.com.au/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1030&h=182015696945&indiv=try

    7. [S307] FamilySearch Family Tree, FamilySearch.org, "Australia, Tasmania, Civil Registration, 1803-1933," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/Q27M-B1YL : 16 March 2018), Robert Alomes, 31 Aug 1853; citing Death 31 Aug 1853, Clarence, Tasmania, Australia, line #51.
      Robert Alomes, "Australia, Tasmania, Civil Registration, 1803-1933"
      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27M-B1YL



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